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[求助] apple lighting connector chip 功能是如何?? BQ2025 和NX20P3

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发表于 2013-2-21 09:11:14 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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Apple 對 micro USB

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=383&t=2524515

蘋果要看 D+, D- 來認別裝置. 如果啥都沒有就不充電(其實對, 也不對).

D+/D-如果是2.0V/2.0V表示是電腦,給500mA充電,充iPhone會較原廠慢一半,充iPad可充但很慢
D+/D-如果是2.8V/2.0V表示是iPad充電器,可供1.5A,接iPad給1.5A,接iPhone他自己只會抽取1A.
D+/D-如果是2.0V/2.8V表示是iPhone充電器,可供1A,接iPad他自己只會抽取1A,接iPhone給1A可.
PS: 1000mA = 1A, 500mA = 0.5A, 100mA = 0.1A


那 lighting connector 內 chip 到底如何工作 ??

However, TI does have published datasheets on the BQ2022, BQ2023, BQ2024, and BQ2026. These four chips are cataloged on TI’s website as battery fuel gauges, but they are not identical, with three of them being serial EPROMs and one of them being a battery monitor IC.


To complete the story, let’s look at the other three chips on the lightning connector board. The NXP NX20P3 includes one huge transistor occupying over 75% of the die area. It also has a fair amount of Analog circuitry


The Texas Instruments BQ2025 is a serial communication chip (EPROM and SDQ) interface found in the Apple Lightning cable.         

NXP NX20P3   和 BQ2025 是那類CHIP ??


http://www.chipworks.com/blog/recentteardowns/2012/10/15/inside-the-apple-lightning-cable/

VlsiInTheNews.2012.10.15.AppleLightningConnector.pdf (133.42 KB, 下载次数: 255 )
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-21 09:13:30 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 peterlin2010 于 2013-2-21 09:18 编辑

回复 1# peterlin2010


    iPhone5 Lightning接口线拆解
http://www.dz3w.com/articlescn/mobile/77937.html

http://www.ithome.com/html/iphone/27937.htm

ChipWorks称芯片上包括了大约有64或128位的存储容量的EPROM,同时还有大型驱动电晶体、模拟电路以及大量电容



Lightning数据线中共含有四块芯片,其中两块为负责传输功能的普通芯片,另两块芯片则比较复杂。其中最值得瞩目的是一块德州仪器制造的芯片:这块TI BQ2025并没有出现在德仪的数据表单上,但Chipworks将其拆解后发现,这块芯片与一块通信芯片相连,具备“简单的安全功能”。Chipworks提到,这个安全功能与今天的打印机墨盒等产品所采用的方法不同,反而与早期制造商所使用的技术比较接近。

其中两颗应该是非常简单的(只采用少量三极管)的芯片。另外一颗是NXP公司的NX20P3,但是关键的是第四颗TI公司生产的芯片BQ2025.
从下图中,可以看到TI的芯片靠近连接器。BQ2025在TI的库里目前还找不到已发布的datasheet.但却能找到类似的BQ2022,BQ2023,BQ2024及BQ206.
这四颗芯片并不完全相同。其中三颗是串行EPROMs,另一颗是电池电源管理芯片(BQ2022).
不过这四颗芯片也有一些共同的特性。即都是采用TI专用的单线SDQ接口。
所有BQ2025也极有可能是在采用相同的SDQ接口的芯片。
我们切开BQ2025后,可以看到更多的细节。如下图所示,左上角是一逻辑模块,大约包含有5000个门电路,可能是64bit或128bits的存储模块.
另外包括有一些大驱动三极管,少量的模拟电路及电容。
所以基本可以说这是一个起安全控制作用的串行通信芯片.
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-4 09:58:07 | 显示全部楼层
苹果转换线配置高,竟带ARM SoC及256MB内存

根据研究发现,苹果的Lightning数字AV适配器可能具有AirPlay接收功能。调查者发现这款适配器包含ARM的SoC,还有海力士的256MB存储模块。

  根据Panic Software的研究发现,苹果的Lightning数字AV适配器包含了ARM架构的SoC,可能具有AirPlay接收功能。
这种适配器一端连接iPad或iPhone,另一端为HDMI输出接口,能输出图像,属于转换性质。调查者发现这款适配器在性能上比旧式的连接器有所滞后,于是拆开来观察,然后就发现了ARM的SoC,还有海力士的256MB存储模块。
http://www.expreview.com/24057.html
发表于 2013-3-12 22:30:00 | 显示全部楼层
看来楼主准备培杰 I5的数据线了  呵呵 有没有什么方案 我们也山寨一个
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-13 11:30:01 | 显示全部楼层
No , 只是很好奇
GOOGLE 下..
发表于 2013-4-6 13:59:16 | 显示全部楼层
已经被破解了,但是直到现在也没有更多的官方信息出来
 楼主| 发表于 2013-4-8 08:50:30 | 显示全部楼层
未來應該 ANDROID 會多於APPLE 設備

只要 ANDROID 不也如此玩就好
发表于 2013-5-14 16:04:42 | 显示全部楼层
长见识了……
发表于 2013-7-11 00:29:58 | 显示全部楼层
very good
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-11 11:15:58 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 peterlin2010 于 2013-7-11 11:20 编辑

回复 9# xlteam11


    lightning-usb.jpg

have anyone have other message about chip ??


Apple's Lightning port dynamically assigns pins to allow for reversible use

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                                Apple's Lightning port dynamically assigns pins to allow for reversible use               

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                A cabling expert has taken a closer look at how Apple's new Lightning connector works, and has come to the conclusion that the 8 pins on each side of the plug are dynamically assigned, likely thanks to the use of a unique chip in the iPhone 5.

Peter from Double Helix Cables first shared with AppleInsider last week his discovery that Apple's new Lightning connector cables feature integrated authentication chips. He has since taken an even closer look at Lightning and concluded that the layout of the pins must be dynamically assigned based on how the cable is physically plugged in to a device like the iPhone 5.

When it unveiled Lightning earlier this month, Apple noted that the new, all-digital connector "features an adaptive interface that uses only the signals that each accessory requires." But Peter's testing has shown that Apple's cable goes even further to allow for reversible use in either orientation.


                               
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Some features of the Lightning cable, such as USB power connections, are symmetrical on each side of the plug. That means that if the pins on Lightning are numbered from one to eight on each side, pin one on the top row connects with pin eight on the bottom row.

This allows users to flip the connector and plug Lightning into an iPhone 5 in either orientation. With this design decision, the lower right pin always makes contact with the same spot in the corresponding Lightning jack on the iPhone.

However, while the USB power connection is symmetrical, Peter's testing found that the data connections in Lightning are actually asymmetrical. As such, he believes that dynamic Lightning pin assignment is performed by a chip included on the iPhone 5.

"Take top pin 2 for example," he wrote in an e-mail to AppleInsider. "It is contiguous, electrically, with bottom pin 2. So, as the plug is inserted into the iPhone, if you have the cable in one way, pin 2 would go into the left side of the jack, flip it the other way and the same pair of pins is going to match up with the other side of the jack (as the electrical contacts in the iPhone's jacks are along the bottom)."
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